HERINGTON HIGH SCHOOL
SITE COUNCIL MINUTES
Monday, April 7, 2008
MEMBERS
Shawn Baird-Chairperson
Steve Mies-Vice Chairperson (Principal), Julie
Albrecht-Secretary,
Emily Porter, Ronda Strome, Helen Rettie, Kris
Mueller, Susan Mueller
1. Call to order
Members present:
Mark Cook (in place of Steve Mies), Julie Albrecht, Ronda
Strome, Susan Mueller, Emily Porter
2. Approval of minutes
Motion by Susan Mueller seconded by Ronda Strome
3. Old Business
a)Bond Election – May 6: Promotional signs, etc. are in
progress.
b)State Assessments: math & reading complete; working
on others
c)NCA Visit – NCA Team will recommend USD487 for
full accreditation approval
4. New Business
a)Elgibility proposed policy – Draft form
b)Lockdown practice – To be done on 4.17.08
c)Prom – 4.18.08
MEETING ADJOURNMENT
Emily P. moved to adjourn and Susan M. seconded.
Motion passed 5-0.
NEXT MEETING
Next meeting is set for Monday, September 8, 2008 in the
school library at 3:45 pm.
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HERINGTON HIGH SCHOOL
SITE COUNCIL MINUTES
Monday, February 4, 2008
MEMBERS
Shawn Baird-Chairperson
Steve Mies-Vice Chairperson (Principal), Julie
Albrecht-Secretary,
Emily Porter, Ronda Strome, Helen Rettie, Kris
Mueller, Susan Mueller
1. Call to order
Members present:
Steve Mies, Julie Albrecht, Shawn Baird, Ronda Strome,
Susan Mueller, John Thissen
2. Approval of minutes
Motion by Shawn Baird seconded by Susan Mueller
3. Old Business
a)Building proposal—Mr. Thissen reported on the progress
of school bond to be held in May
b)Senior Citizen member – still searching
c)Class Schedule for 08-09 school year –next year, a
7-period day regular schedule will be implemented at the
high/middle schools
d)State assessment schedule was posted on the school
website
4. New Business
a)North Central Association (NCA) Visit is scheduled to
visit the high/middle schools on April 2 for 10 – 11 am. The
meeting will be held at the middle school. Site council
members are encouraged to attend. This would send a positive
message to the visiting team.
MEETING ADJOURNMENT
Steve Mies moved to adjourn and Susan M. seconded. Motion
passed 6-0.
NEXT MEETING
is set for Monday on April 7, 2008 in the school
library at 3:45 pm.
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HERINGTON HIGH SCHOOL
SITE COUNCIL MINUTES
Monday, January 7, 2008
MEMBERS
Shawn Baird-Chairperson
Steve Mies-Vice Chairperson (Principal), Julie
Albrecht-Secretary,
Emily Porter, Ronda Strome, Helen Rettie, Kris
Mueller, Susan Mueller
1. Call to order
Members present:
Steve Mies, Julie Albrecht, Shawn Baird, Ronda Strome,
Helen Rettie, Susan Mueller, Emily Porter
2. Approval of minutes
Motion by Shawn Baird seconded by Susan Mueller
3. Old Business
a)Senior Citizen member – still searching
b)School Climate – Installed cameras – Aaron Davis
Assembly received a favorable response
c)Class Schedule for 08-09 school year – final decision
by the end of January
d)State assessment schedule need to be posted in daily
announcements
4. New Business
a)January 21 Inservice
A report to staff given by Deb G. and Beth B. on progress made
for on-site NCA visit
b)Red Cross Blood Drive set for Feb. 8 from 9:30 to 1:30 at
the Middle School
Information is posted on school website.
MEETING ADJOURNMENT
Julie A. moved to adjourn and Susan M. seconded. Motion
passed 6-0.
NEXT MEETING IS SET FOR MONDAY, FEBRUARY 4, 2008
(high school library at 3:45 pm)
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HERINGTON HIGH SCHOOL
SITE COUNCIL MINUTES
Monday, December 3, 2007
MEMBERS
Shawn Baird-Chairperson
Steve Mies-Vice Chairperson (Principal), Julie
Albrecht-Secretary,
Emily Porter, Ronda Strome, Helen Rettie, Kris
Mueller, Susan Mueller
1. Call to order
Members present:
Steve Mies, Julie Albrecht, Emily Porter, Ronda Strome, Helen
Rettie, Susan Mueller
2. Approval of minutes
Motion by Emily Porter seconded by Susan
Mueller
3. Old Business
a)Senior Citizen member – still searching
b)School Climate – Aaron Davis guest speaker for
middle/high school students
c)Class Schedule for 08-09 school year – committee has
been formed to work on schedule to presented to faculty in
January
4. New Business
a)Heartland
Emily Porter reported on the services provided by Heartland
b)Preseason Basketball Tournament
Orange Express will run concession stand during tournament.
c)Tri-County Chamber Educator of the Year
Nomination forms were available for students and staff who were
interested in nominating an educator
d)National Merit Scholar
Josh Patterson is a national merit scholar and will be
recognized during the preseason basketball tournament.
MEETING ADJOURNMENT
Ronda S. moved to adjourn and Susan M. seconded.
Motion passed 6-0.
NEXT MEETING, JANUARY 7, 2008 (high school library at
3:45 pm)
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HERINGTON HIGH SCHOOL
SITE COUNCIL MINUTES
Monday, November 5, 2007
MEMBERS
Shawn Baird-Chairperson
Steve Mies-Vice Chairperson (Principal), Julie
Albrecht-Secretary,
Emily Porter, Ronda Strome, Helen Rettie, Kris
Mueller, Susan Mueller
1. Call to order
Members present:
Steve Mies, Julie Albrecht, Ronda Strome, Helen Rettie, Kris
Mueller, Susan Mueller
2. Approval of minutes
Motion by Ronda Strome seconded by Susan Mueller
3. Old Business
a)Building proposal—members
Place powerpoint presentation on building proposal on district
school website Survey results?
b)Senior Citizen member – still searching
4. New Business
a)School Climate
Kris M. shared his views on our current school climate
b)HMS/HHS class schedule
Next school year’s class schedule will be more of a
regular schedule versus a block schedule. Final details are
on schedule are not finalized.
5. Added item
Mr. Mies is going to have information on parent/student
attendance for Parent/Teacher conferences.
MEETING ADJOURNMENT
Ronda S. moved to adjourn and Susan M. seconded.
Motion passed 6-0.
NEXT MEETING, DECEMBER 3 (high school library)
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HERINGTON HIGH SCHOOL
SITE COUNCIL MINUTES
Monday, October 1, 2007
MEMBERS
Shawn Baird-Chairperson
Steve Mies-Vice Chairperson (Principal), Julie
Albrecht-Secretary,
Emily Porter, Ronda Strome, Helen Rettie, Kris
Mueller, Susan Mueller
1. Call to order
Members present:
Ronda Strome, Helen Retti, Steve Mies, Julie Albrecht, Susan
Mueller, Kris Mueller, Emily Porter
2. Approval of minutes
Motion by Susan Mueller seconded by Julie
Albrecht
3. Additions to agenda
a)Discipline—Teachers are required to fill out a
Referral Form on any student sent to the office (same form used by
Boys Town)
4. Old Business
a)Community meeting set for 10.18.07, HS
cafeteria.
b)Each member is to recommend a possibility for a senior
citizen member to join our committee.
5. New Business
a)NCA visit—5th year in cycle, NCA visit
scheduled for April
b)Class schedule change—block schedule vs. regular (now
discussing pros and cons)
c)Oct. 12 teacher inservice—teacher will receive traininG
on MAPS (student assessment)
d)Tours by Mr. Thissen—prior to community meeting, Mr.
Thissen will be giving tours of school district facilities
e)Homecoming week—Fall Homecoming week went as scheduled,
concerns shared of students engaging in vandalism acts during the
evenings of that week
f)Veterans Day activities—On Monday (11.12), high school
students will gather around the flagpole located on east side of
building
Meeting Adjournment
Susan M. moved to adjourn and Emily P. seconded. Motion
passed 5-0.
NEXT MEETING: MONDAY, NOVEM BER 5 (high school
library)
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HERINGTON HIGH SCHOOL
SITE COUNCIL MINUTES
Monday, September 10, 2007
MEMBERS
Shawn Baird-Chairperson
Steve Mies-Vice Chairperson (Principal), Julie
Albrecht-Secretary,
Emily Porter, Ronda Strome, Helen Retti, Kris
Mueller, Susan Mueller
1. Call to order
Members present:
Ronda Strome, Helen Retti, Shaun Baird, Steve Mies, Julie
Albrecht
2. Approval of minutes
Motion by Ronda Strome seconded by Steve
Mies
3. Building Proposal
Shaun Baird informed the group that basically two
building proposals are being formed to present to the
community.
4. Start of school
Steve Mies reported that the school year is off to
a good start. Some of the things he mentioned as top
priorities are: to be positive, remind students that adults
are in charge, emphasize unity, and maintain consistency.
5. Boys and Girls Town
Steve Mies informed the group that he is very pleased with the
Boys and Girls Town training. The training has offered
teaching, administrative, and support staff positive methods
when dealing with student discipline.
6. Parking Lot cameras
Cameras will be purchased for the hs/ms parking lot for security
reasons.
7. Teacher Evaluations
Steve Mies mentioned that the hs/ms are behind on teacher
evaluations and are not in compliance with State standards.
8. School functions scheduled on Sundays
Shaun Baird expressed concern about school activities being
scheduled on Sundays which conflict with church activities and
asked if anything was stated in the district handbook about this
issue.
9. Tabled for next meeting
Discipline notices.
Meeting Adjournment
Shaun B. moved to adjourn and Helen R. seconded. Motion
passed 5-0.
NEXT MEETING: MONDAY, OCTOBER 1, 2007
HERINGTON HIGH SCHOOL
SITE COUNCIL MINUTES
Monday, February 5, 2007
MEMBERS
Shawn Baird-Chairperson
Marlo Klassen-Vice Chairperson (Principal),
Julie Albrecht-Secretary,
Vic Brunner, Roger Diekmann, Lee Floyd, Emily
Hays, Emily Porter, Ronda Strome
1. Call to order
Members present:
Ronda Strome, Roger Diekmann, Marlo Klassen, Emily Porter, Julie
Albrecht
2. Approval of minutes
Motion by Emily Porter seconded by Roger Diekmann
3. Equipment needed: Dishwasher for HHS
Kitchen
The kitchen staff informed site council that a dishwasher needs
to be replaced.
4. Extended school
Plans for the Extended School Program are:
1)May 29 – June 8 from 8:30 – 11:30 am
2)Curriculum will be designed to improve needed core subject
skills
3)Not a credit recovery program
4)If students who are required to attend the program fail to
show they will be considered truant.
5. Architects are close to finalizing proposal for
district impovements
Mrs. Klassen reported the that the architects are close to
finalizing a proposal for district facility improvements. The
main issue continues to toss between renovate existing facilities
to building new.;
Meeting Adjournment
Roger D. moved to adjourn and Marlo K. seconded.
Motion passed 5-0.
NEXT MEETING: MONDAY, MARCH 5, 2007 (high school
library)
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HERINGTON HIGH SCHOOL
SITE COUNCIL MINUTES
Monday, January 8, 2007
MEMBERS
Shawn Baird-Chairperson
Marlo Klassen-Vice Chairperson (Principal),
Julie Albrecht-Secretary,
Vic Brunner, Roger Diekmann, Lee Floyd, Emily
Hays, Emily Porter, Ronda Strome
1. Call to order
Members present:
Roger Diekmann, Shawn Baird, Marlo Klassen, Julie Albrecht,
Emily Porter
2. Approval of minutes
Motion by Emily Porter seconded by Roger Diekmann
3. Most Clocks in high school are now showing correct
time
Most high school clocks were worked on and do show
correct time. The issue of replacing clock and bell system
will be decided at the end of the school year.
4. Extended school
Plans for the Extended School Program are in progress.
More details on this program will be shared at the next
meeting.
5. Glass removal from high school cafeteria
Mrs. Klassen suggested that the glass surrounding the high
school cafeteria removed for safety purposes. More details on
this issue will be shared at next meeting.
Meeting Adjournment
Emily P. moved to adjourn and Shawn B. seconded. Motion
passed 5-0.
NEXT MEETING: MONDAY, FEBRUARY 5, 2007 (high school
library)
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HERINGTON HIGH SCHOOL
SITE COUNCIL MINUTES
Monday, November 6, 2006
MEMBERS
Shawn Baird-Chairperson
Marlo Klassen-Vice Chairperson (Principal),
Julie Albrecht-Secretary,
Vic Brunner, Roger Diekmann, Lee Floyd, Emily
Hays, Emily Porter, Ronda Strome
1. Call to order
Members present:
Lee Floyd, Ronda Strome, Marlo Klassen, Julie Albrecht,
Emily Porter
2. Approval of minutes
Motion by Lee F. seconded by Ronda S.
3. Parent/Teacher Conferences
a)Conferences held in high school gym were well received by
parents
b)Feeling of unity between middle and high school
c)Using the Principals's Pass seems to help as an incentive for
parents and students to attend conferences.
d)Having access to computers helped teachers immensely.
4. Clocks in high school not working
Mr. Klassen reported that the high school clock system is
outdated and it is very difficult to find parts to make repairs.
He's working with a company on what can be done to repair our
clock system. It may take some time.
5. No meeting is scheduled for December 2006.
6. Next meeting will b e Monday, January 8, 2006 in the
high school library.
Meeting adjournment:
Lee F. moved to adjourn, Emily P. seconded. Motion passed
5 to 0.
Plans for the Extended School Program are in progress.
More details on this program will be shared at the next
meeting.
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HERINGTON HIGH SCHOOL
SITE COUNCIL MINUTES
Monday, October 2, 2006
MEMBERS
Marlo Klassen-Vice Chairperson (Principal)
Shawn Baird-Chairperson, Julie
Albrecht-Secretary,
Ronda Strome, Lee Floyd, Roger Diekmann, Emily
Porter, Vic Brunner, Emily Hays
1. Call to order
Members present: Julie Albrecht, Shawn Baird, Roger
Diekmann, Lee Floyd, Marlo Klassen, Emily Porter
2. Election of officers
Chairperson: Shawn Baird
Vice Chair: Marlo Klassen
Secretary: Julie Albrecht
Old Business:
1. Last years projects:
a. New tile in high school gym entry way
b. Middle school - students can earn course
credits
New Business:
1. Projects or concerns for the year
(2006-2007)
a. Discipline referral rate significantly
down from last year at same time
b. MAPS Testing (English, Math, Science) (9 –
11 grades)
c. Site members were asked for improvement needs for high
school facility
d. Site Council will meet in the following months for this
year:
October, November, January, February,
March, April
2. Next Meeting
Monday, 11.6.06
Meeting Adjournment
Lee Floyd moved to adjourn, Emily seconded. Motion passed
6-0.
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HERINGTON HIGH SCHOOL
SITE COUNCIL MINUTES
Monday, April 3, 2006
MEMBERS
Bill Ellis-Principal, Marlo Klassen-Asst.
Principal
Shawn Baird-President, Julie
Albrecht-Secretary, Ronda Strome, Lee Floyd,
Roger Diekmann, Emily Porter, Vic Brunner, Emily
Hays
1. Call to order
Members present: Julie Albrecht, Marlo Klassen,
Roger Diekmann, Vic Brunner, Emily Porter
2. Discussed maintenance items that need to be
addressed
3. Architects
a)architects visited with teachers for building needs
b)make decision on remodeling existing building or rebuilding
4. Discussed possible changes in district
handbook
5. Adjourn
Marlo Klassen moved to adjourn, Julie Albrecht seconded.
Motion passed 5-0. Our next meeting will be held on,
Monday, May 8, 2006 at 4 pm in the HHS library.
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HERINGTON HIGH SCHOOL
SITE COUNCIL MINUTES
Monday, March , 2006
MEMBERS
Bill Ellis-Principal, Marlo Klassen-Asst.
Principal
Shawn Baird-President, Julie
Albrecht-Secretary, Ronda Strome, Lee Floyd,
Roger Diekmann, Emily Porter, Vic Brunner, Emily
Hays
1. Call to order
Members present: Julie Albrecht, Marlo Klassen,
Roger Diekmann, Shawn Baird, Emily Porter, Emily Hays, Lee
Floyd
2. Discussed ideas on how to improve
student academic performance at the middle and high school
level
Mr. Klassen led a discussion on different ideas the
district is considering to help improve academic performance at the
high and middle school levels. Some of the items discussed as
possibilities are listed below:
a)Middle school students earning course credits
b)Middle school students having to repeat failed courses
c)Summer school for middle and high school students failing core
subjects
d)Implementing a course credit recovery program for high school
students
3. Adjourn
Marlo Klassen moved to adjourn, Julie Albrecht seconded.
Motion passed 7-0. Our next meeting will be held on,
Monday, April 3, 2006 at 4 pm in the HHS library.
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HERINGTON HIGH SCHOOL
SITE COUNCIL MINUTES
Monday, January 9, 2006
MEMBERS
Bill Ellis-Principal, Marlo Klassen-Asst.
Principal
Shawn Baird-President, Julie
Albrecht-Secretary, Ronda Strome, Lee Floyd,
Roger Diekmann, Emily Porter, Vic Brunner, Emily
Hays
1. Call to order
Members present: Bill Ellis, Julie Albrecht, Marlo
Klassen, Roger Diekmann, Shawn Baird, Emily Porter, Emily
Hays
2. Welcomed new member
Emily Hays, HHS Junior, is now a member of the HHS Site
Council.
3. Shared School Sign ideas with HMS Site Council member, Ben
Meyer
The following information was shared about a school sign:
a)Ronda S. submitted cost estimate of approx. $7,300 for a
sign
b)Council will collect at least 3 different cost estimates to
submit to school board
c)Council will put together a proposal as soon as cost estimate
information has been collected.;
4. Shared ideas on how to improve HHS student
attendance
Mr. Ellis shared with the group different school policies that
have been initiated to try to improve student attendance.
5 Adjourn
Bill Ellis moved to adjourn, Julie Albrecht seconded.
Motion passed 7-0. Our next meeting will be held on,
Monday, February 6, 2006 at 4 pm in the HHS
library.
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HERINGTON HIGH SCHOOL
SITE COUNCIL MINUTES
Monday, December 5, 2005
MEMBERS
Bill Ellis-Principal, Marlo Klassen-Asst.
Principal
Shawn Baird-President, Julie
Albrecht-Secretary, Ronda Strome, Lee Floyd,
Roger Diekmann, Emily Porter, Vic Brunner
1. Call to order
Members present: Bill Ellis, Julie Albrecht, Ronda Strome,
Marlo Klassen, Lee Floyd, Roger Diekmann, Shawn Baird
2. Elected Site Council President
Shawn Baird was unanimously voted in as President of the HHS
Site Council.
3. Student Attendance
Mr. Ellis expressed his concern on student attendance. A
discussion was held on how attendance could be improved.
5 Adjourn
Bill Ellis moved to adjourn, Roger Diekmann seconded.
Motion passed 7-0. Our next meeting will be held on,
Monday, January 9, 2006 at 4 pm in the HHS
library.
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HERINGTON HIGH SCHOOL
SITE COUNCIL MINUTES
Monday, November 14, 2005
MEMBERS
Bill Ellis-Principal, Marlo Klassen-Asst.
Principal
Julie Albrecht-Secretary, Ronda Strome, Lee
Floyd, Shawn Baird,
Roger Diekmann, Emily Porter, Steven Clark,
Crystal Cannaday
1. Call to order
Members present: Bill Ellis, Julie Albrecht, Ronda Strome,
Marlo Klassen, Lee Floyd, Roger Diekmann
2. Update on school sign
A meeting with the Middle School Site Council is to be arranged
to discuss school sign.
3. MAP�Measures Academic Performance
Mr. Ellis gave a brief explanation of the MAP testing be done at
the middle school level. This type of academic testing might
be done at the high school level.
4. Credit Recovery
Mr. Ellis gave a brief explanation on Credit
Recovery for middle/high school students. This type of
program would allow students to earn course credit outside of the
classroom. This type of program is an example of what
might be implemented in our school district to help students earn
needed credits for graduation.
5. Site Council President
At our next meeting, a president for our council will be
appointed.
6. Adjourn
Bill Ellis moved to adjourn, Roger Diekmann seconded.
Motion passed 6-0. Our next meeting will be held on,
Monday, December 5, 2005 at 4 pm in the HHS
library.
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HERINGTON HIGH SCHOOL
SITE COUNCIL MINUTES
Monday, October 3, 2005
MEMBERS
Bill Ellis-Principal, Julie
Albrecht-Secretary,
Ronda Strome, Lee Floyd, Shawn Baird, Roger
Diekmann, Emily Porter, Marlo Klassen
Steven Clark, Crystal Cannaday
1. Call to order
Members present: Bill Ellis, Julie Albrecht, Shawn Baird,
Ronda Strome, Marlo Klassen, Emily Porter, Lee Floyd
2. Update on Site Council Members
Mr. Ellis plans to have an updated list of members for next
meeting.
3. Update on HMS/HHS sign
Mr. Ellis gave a brief update on school sign.
4. Adjourn
Bill Ellis moved to adjourn, Rhonda Strome seconded.
Motion passed 7-0. Our next meeting will be held on,
Monday, November 7, 2005 at 4 pm in the HHS
library.
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HERINGTON HIGH SCHOOL
SITE COUNCIL MINUTES
Monday, September 12 , 2005
MEMBERS
Bill Ellis-Principal, Julie
Albrecht-Secretary,
Rhonda Strome, Lee Floyd, Shawn Baird, Roger
Diekmann, Emily Porter, Marlo Klassen
Steven Clark, Crystal Cannaday
1. Call to order
Members present: Bill Ellis, Julie Albrecht, Shawn Baird,
Rhonda Strome, Marlo Klassen, Roger Diekmann, Emily Porter
2. Update on Academic Policy
Mr. Ellis explained the changes to HHS/HMS Academic Policy
for 2005-06 school year
3. Adjourn
Bill Ellis moved to adjourn, Rhonda Strome seconded.
Motion passed 7-0. Our next meeting will be held on, Monday,
October 3, 2005 at 4 pm in the HHS library.
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HERINGTON HIGH
SCHOOL
SITE
COUNCIL MINUTES
April 4,
2005
MEMBERS
Bill
Ellis-Principal, John Kline-President, Julie
Albrecht-Secretary,
Rhonda Strome,
Lee Floyd, Shawn Baird, Roger Diekmann, Emily Porter
Steven Clark,
Crystal Cannaday
1. CALL
TO ORDER
Members present: Bill
Ellis, Julie Albrecht, John Kline, Shawn Baird, Steven Clark, Roger
Diekmann, Emily Porter
2. Update on Outdoor
sign for Middle and High School
Mr. Ellis submitted outdoor sign to
school board.
3. Incentive and
After School Academic programs
Update on the following
incentive school programs:
4. Friday Seminar
Opt-out--Students in
�good standing� can leave before 8th pd
seminar.
5. Grades
Incentive--Students
can now accumulate points for grades, points
will be reported on individual student
coupons.
6. Gravel for the
parking lot behind the high school
Update on gravel behind
school.
7. Discussed the
possibility of a Citizenship Grade based on student data generated
from ProStar.
8.
ADJOURN
Bill Ellis moved to adjourn,
Emily Porter seconded. Motion passed 7-0. Our next
meeting will be held on, Monday, May 2, 2005
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HERINGTON HIGH
SCHOOL
SITE
COUNCIL
March 7,
2005
MEMBERS
Bill
Ellis-Principal, John Kline-President, Julie
Albrecht-Secretary,
Rhonda Strome,
Lee Floyd, Shawn Baird, Roger Diekmann, Emily Porter
Steven Clark,
Crystal Cannaday
1. CALL TO
ORDER
Members present: Bill
Ellis, Julie Albrecht, John Kline, Shawn Baird, Steven
Clark
2. Outdoor sign for
Middle and High School
Mr. Ellis submitted a proposal for a
new sign to the Site Council for review before presenting to the
school board.
3. Simplified
On-line Communications System (SOCS)
Briefly discussed new school
website features such as the calendar and email reminders on school
events.
4. Incentive and
After School Academic programs
Briefly discussed incentive
and after school programs that would help boost student
grades.
5. Gravel for the
parking lot behind the high school
Mr. Ellis reported to the group the
need for gravel on the parking lot behind the high
school.
6.
ADJOURN
Roger Diekmann moved to
adjourn, Julie Albrecht seconded. Motion passed 5-0.
Our next meeting will be held on, Monday, April 4, 2005
